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A new theme in the media - It's forbidden for Muslims to practice Yoga. link
It's really noteworthy how Islam from very open religion turned to be so fanatic and fundamentalist.

In the beginning Islam was known for it openness to other cultures and science. Wasn't that in the Koran that the Prophet said "a minute of scientific research is worth more hours of prayer" ? Where are the people which translated and preserved Plato and all other ancient Greek and Roman philosophers and scientist from dark middle ages of Catholics church? (Scientific method, blood circulation, solving cube equations were developed from islam scientist)

For Yoga: Do you know that one of the first "Yoga Sutra" translation is in Arab language from Al-Biruni in early mid centuries?
Hatha Yoga tradition was higliy appreciated in islam world. Hatha Yoga gave birth to many Sifi teachings and techniques.
Amrita-Kunda was translated by Qazi Ruknud-Din Samarqandi Hatha-Yogic principles by a Siddha, called Bhojar Brahman. The work was later translated and retranslated into Persian. Known version is from Shaikh Muhammad Ghaus Shattari. (“Bahr-ul-Hayat“)
Shaikh Abdul-Quddus also explains the concept of sahaja according to Nath traditions. He emphasizes it in the sense of the union between Shakti and Shiva. However, the realization of sahaja, says the Shaikh leads to the achieving of ontological immortality or the sufi baqa’. A state of perfect equilibrium, it transcends perceptual knowledge with positive and negative experience. (see samarasa)

So, it seems to me that Yoga has a deep root in the Islamic culture.

Than we come to the question: Why some people and media want to divide cultures and to spread hatred? Intelligent people were obviously united and eager to learn and exchange from each other for centuries.

Illustration: One of the 21 miniature from “Bahr-ul-Hayat“ (Ocean of life) from Shaykh Muhammad Ghawth Gwaliyari Ibn Muhammad Sarni Hosaini

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Rado, ein interessantes Thema. Wie bist Du darauf gestossen und woher hast Du so viele Infos dazu?

Ich habe gelesen, daß die Sikhs auch kein Yoga praktizieren dürfen (die Sikh-Gruppe um Yogi Bhajans Kundalini Yoga scheint die Ausnahme zu sein). Siehst Du da Parallelen?

Und ich kann mir auch vorstellen, daß es einige christliche Gruppierungen gibt, die vor Yoga warnen. Hatten wir nicht ein Video dazu? Oder war das christliches Yoga? :-)
Gelesen über Yoga Einfluss in Islam habe ich von vorher. Die Post habe ich geschrieben weil ich die Thema im Medien gesehen habe.

In Christentum gibt auch Fundamentalismus aber scheint mir weniger (im Mittelalter war umgekehrt)

Sikhs haben viel Eingenommen von andere Religionen (auch von Sufi) aber meine Meinung nach sind eher hindu. Auch in der Geschichte haben die Sikhs viel gegen Islam gekämpft.

Für Yoga - was für eine yoga dürfen die Sikhs nicht praktizieren? In Prinzip Hatha Yoga ist nicht Teil von Sikh, aber sie habe änliche Surat Sabd Yoga us.w. Schau auch z.B. Kirtan Kriya
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Letzte Woche habe ich eine Sendung auf TV gesehen über Hinduistische Fundamentalismus und Gewalt gegen Christen. Fundamentalisten gibt immer in jeder Religion.

Hatha Yoga ist auch nicht "traditionell". Noch weniger sind einige Tantra Schulen, die komplett unorthodox sind. z.B. Erkennen nicht göttliche Ursprung der Veda und Kasten System.
So etwas ähnliches hatte ich mal gelesen:
"Guru Nanak Sahib settled down at Kartarpur city (now in Pakistan) which was founded by him in 1522 and spent the rest of his life there (1522-1539). ...
He rejected the path of renunciation Tyaga or Yoga, the authority of the Vedas and the Hindu caste system. Guru Nanak Sahib emphasised the leading of householder's life (Grista), unattached to gross materialism. The services of mankind Sewa, Kirtan, Satsang and faith in 'One' Omnipotent God are the basic concepts of Sikhism established by Guru Nanak Sahib. Thus he laid the foundations of Sikhism."
http://www.sgpc.net/gurus/gurunanak.asp

Now I don't know if that is the general view or just a minority.
>Hatha Yoga ist auch nicht "traditionell". Noch weniger sind einige Tantra Schulen, die komplett unorthodox sind. z.B. Erkennen nicht göttliche Ursprung der Veda und Kasten System.

Kennst Du das Buch "Tantra" von Andre v. Lysbeth? Darin beschreibt er die indische Kultur der Draviden, die in Indien herrschte, bis die Arier von Norden in das Land kamen. Die dravidische Kultur wurde dann in den Süden gedrängt. Tantra scheint von den Draviden zu stammen. Hinduismus, Kastensystem und die Veden von den Ariern. Ich erinnere es nicht mehr genau. Kennst Du Dich dazu genauer aus?
Yes, the intermediaries (between God and the individuals) trying to protect their turf. I agree.
I Agree :-)

Ab und zu ich mag quatschen :-)
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Fatwa on yoga this week
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http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wednesday/National/2405730/A...
Sorry. Der Link scheint nicht zu funktionieren.
Fatwa on yoga this week
By : Hamidah Atan


PUTRAJAYA: The National Fatwa Council will come out with a ruling on yoga exercise this week.
Department of Islamic Development Malaysia (Jakim) director-general Datuk Wan Mohamad Sheikh Abdul Aziz, who said this yesterday, remained tight-lipped when asked if the fatwa would ban Muslims from taking up yoga.

However, he said, the council and Jakim would not hesitate to issue fatwa or rulings to ensure Muslims do not deviate from the teachings of Islam.

"Just like the ruling we issued recently on tomboyish behaviour, our decision on yoga has to be made to preserve the faith of Muslims," said Wan Mohamad.

Council chairman Professor Datuk Dr Abdul Syukor Husin yesterday said they had finalised the ruling on yoga exercise.
"The draft was ready last week but I still have to analyse it. Let Jakim fix a suitable date and time to announce it."

It is understood that the ruling was agreed upon after an in-depth study lasting more than six months.

The matter was referred to the council at least three times.

Recently, Professor Zakaria Stapa, of Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia's Islamic Studies Centre, advised Muslims who had taken up yoga to stop practising it as it could cause them to deviate from their beliefs.

Yoga, which is related to health, has been practised since 3,300BC and is said to help slow down ageing, reduce risk of diabetes, asthma and heart-related diseases.

Zakaria said the daily exercise practice had many poses, positions and concentration techniques based on elements of Hinduism.

Syariah law can be brought to bear on Muslims who practise a culture that can cause them to deviate from their faith.

"I do not understand why Muslims would want to practise yoga for the purpose of finding serenity when Islam, through its teachings, enables its followers to do just that.

"Muslims should just practise what Islam has taught them."
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"Yoga is a part of holistic Islam (Comment)
February 8th, 2009 - 12:23 pm ICT by IANS Tell a Friend -

Let me inform you that I am a staunch Muslim following all the Islamic tenets in the right interpretation and spirit and there is no such thing as yoga being ‘haram’ (disallowed) in Islam. In my case, I have found that Islamic yoga is a reality. It is possible to employ the skills of yoga to worship Allah better and be a better Muslim.

A fatwa by some Malaysian and Indonesian ulema declaring yoga anti-Islamic is nothing but misunderstanding and misinterpreting the fact that yoga and namaz are almost identical. Such half-baked ulema and intellectuals are actually responsible for letting Islam and Muslims down.

Having practised yoga during my school days, I found it is easily integrated with Islamic life, in fact the two assist each other. Islam and yoga together make a mutually beneficial holistic synergy. Both are agreed that, while the body is important as a vehicle on the way to spiritual realisation and salvation, the human being’s primary identity is not with the body but with the eternal spirit.

Maintaining a healthy and fit body is a requirement in Islam, which teaches a Muslim that his or her body is a gift from Allah. Yoga happens to be a common ground between Hindus and Muslims.

The purposes of yoga and Tariqat-e-Naqshbandi (Sufi lifestyle) is apparently similar as both aim at achieving a mystical union with the ultimate reality.

The Indian Muslims’ love affair with yoga is a complex thing. There’s the general disenchantment with strict, orthodox Islam of the myopic clerics and the accompanying pull to alternative forms of spirituality.

Yoga, according to Ashraf F. Nizami’s book “Namaz, the Yoga of Islam” (published by D.B. Taraporevala, Mumbai 1977), is not a religion. Rather, it is a set of techniques and skills that enhance the practice of any religion. Nizami writes that in namaz various constituents like sijdah is like half shirshasana while qayam is vajrasana in the same way as ruku is paschimothanasana.

Even Father Rev. M. Dechanel wrote a book on Christian yoga recording that practising yoga is encouraged because it is a way towards the realisation of Christian teachings.

According to Badrul Islam, a yoga instructor at a government academy in Dehradun, one of the most obvious correspondences between Islam and yoga is the resemblance of the salat (five-time prayer a day) to the physical exercises of yoga asanas. The root meaning of the word salat is ‘to bend the lower back’, as in yoga; the Persians translated this concept with the word namaz, from a verbal root meaning ‘to bow’, etymologically related to the Sanskrit word namaste.

Since the yogic metaphysic of Advaita Vedanta is in perfect accordance with the Islamic doctrine of tauhid (God’s oneness), there is perfect compatibility between Islam and yoga on the highest level.

The “Book of Sufi Healing” by Hakim G.M. Chishti clearly states that life, from its beginning to end, is one continuous set of breathing practices. However, in Tariqat-e-Naqshabandiyah, the Sufi tradition of Islam, breathing practice has been there exactly as in yoga.

The enigmatic and most revered qari, Abdul Basit of Egypt, whose recitation of the holy Quran is considered the best till date, practised breathing exercises exactly similar to pranayam and was able to recite a surah by holding his breath for such a long duration that even medical experts were amazed. However, no one told the qari that he did it with yoga!

Nowadays, yoga is commercially promoted for health. In fact, less exercise owing to long office hours on computers is one of the problems of the modern world. Cars, motorcycles and computers are the pulse of contemporary life. Because of these conveniences people no longer think about physical exercise, which makes a good excuse for Muslims to be offered yoga lessons.

Yoga today is a way of life for the followers of all religions.

The place of yoga in the lives of most Muslims, I imagine, will not be shifted by Indonesian and Malayian ulema’s far-fetched fatwas. Those who practise will practise, the so-called super-pious will frown. Even in the Middle East and Iran, yoga is a pet with Muslims.

Most Muslims in India are dazed that the all encompassing credentials of yoga need to be debated. Let’s appreciate that at this time the pro-yoga fatwa by the renowned Darul Uloom Deoband seminary has given it a nod and Swami Ramdev has also given the green signal that Muslims can use the word Allah for Om.

(07.02.2009-The author is a commentator on social and religious issues. He can be contacted at firozbakhtahmed07@gmail.com) "

http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/yoga-is-a-part-of-ho...
Apropo Islam !

Und was wenn Jesus nicht gekreuzigt wurde ? (Die Moslems glauben fest daran ! An seiner Stelle war es Judas !)

Er nach Indien ausgewandert ist und mit Yoga in Berührung kam und 120 Jahre alt wurde ????

Wusstet Ihr das über den Islam mit Jesus ?

Es gibt übrigens eine menge Deutschsprachiger Bücher darüber wegen Jesus und Indien !!!!

Da ich in der Türkei schon war: Dort ist Yoga verbreiteter als man sich vorstellen kann !
Die Türkei ist ein Islamisches Land zu 98 % und Yogaschulen spriessen wie die Pilze aus dem Boden und haben sofort volle Kurse.

Was ich dort echt gut finde: Es gibt dort keine Kursgebühren ! Die Yogaschulen finanzieren sich aus Spenden der Yogis, und das funktioniert besser als hier bei uns. Es darf jeder Yoga lernen auch wenn er kein Geld hat. Yoga ist für alle da, nicht nur wenn du Geld hast. !!! Vielleicht wäre das ein guter Denkansatz auch für unsere Yogalehrer oder eine weniger gute Idee für hier in Deutschland ?
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ZITAT: So, it seems to me that Yoga has a deep root in the Islamic culture.

Der Islam ist eine Religion und keine Kultur und sollte auch damit nicht benannt werden, sonst behaupte ich ab heute felsenfest das Yoga eine RELIGION ist.

Viele Grüsse

Esther

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